Sunday, February 03, 2008

Lest we forget

I have heard some Democrats say that they will not vote for Hillary Clinton if she gets the Presidential nomination. It seems to me that they're forgetting the stakes:

Can we really stand eight more years of this kind of "compassionate conservatism"? Because that's what failure to vote for a Democratic candidate for President in 2008 dooms us to, unless you think Congress is suddenly going to discover where their balls went to...

Do we really want eight more years of one Katrina disaster after another where government refuses to do what's needed to serve the public that elects it because it's not ideologically correct to do so? Can we survive eight more years of this kind of "government"?

-- Badtux the Realist Penguin


  1. What is it with this "my way or nothing" immature bs from the Obaby cult of personality?

    How does that Unify anything?

    My guess is they were independents who would only vote Dem if Obama was the nominee. Otherwise, hello McCain!

    What puerile drivel. While you can never control who it is that supports you, I think it says a lot about the kind of candidate they support. Obama seems to have a problem dealing with things that don't go his way.

    [ps. you're added to blogroll, tuxxy]

  2. Does anyone on this blog actually read what "HillaryCare" actually is?

  3. I like Obama myself, but if Hillary wins I will vote for her. There is no way in HELL we need four more years of the Republican idiocracy.

  4. Vince, I carefully read the actual text of the current HillaryCare proposal (as vs. what other people have written about it). It is a completely corrupt proposal that puts money in the pockets of pretty much every special interest under the sun. But -- it does do what it is supposed to do, i.e., provide medical coverage to all Americans, either via private insurance or via a semi-single-payer public insurance fund (she stole that last idea from John Edwards, BTW). Obama's health care proposal does nothing of the sort, when you read the actual proposal as published on his web site as vs. what he says about it in speeches and debates and such.

    As I've mentioned elsewhere, I work off of what the candidates' actual plan is as published on their web sites, not what they say their plan is. If Obama truly has a plan to cover all Americans, he needs to publish it on his web site. Because the one currently published on his web site decidedly does *not* cover all Americans -- at best, it might cover half of the current uninsured.

    - Badtux the Literate Penguin

  5. Government cannot solve all our problems for us, we must take some responsibility for ourselves.

  6. BBC, in a democracy, government *IS* us. It's us getting together to provide for ourselves things like fire, police, etc. that we cannot easily individually provide for ourselves due to economies of scale. You probably think that our forefathers, who instead of hiring a contractor got together and raised barns and houses for each other, were Communists, because they got together and did things as a community rather than being rugged individualists building a barn all by themselves. Sigh. Those who are ignorant of history are... ignorant. Sigh sigh sigh.

    Granted, the United States is not a democracy. But it *could* be, if we wanted it to be.

    So, BBC, if your house catches on fire, well, you need to take individual responsibility and put it out yourself, instead of calling the fire department. LOL!

    - Badtux the Democracy Penguin


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