Tuesday, July 20, 2010

He's a Marine

“You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap around women for five years because they didn’t wear a veil,” General Mattis said during a forum in San Diego in 2005. “You know guys like that ain’t got no manhood left anyway, so it’s a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them.” For those comments, he received an official rebuke.

Y'know, if that's all they got against General James N. Mattis, USMC, I gotta say he ain't gonna have no trouble at all getting confirmed to his new position. 'Cause it's a soldier's job to kill people, and if they're going to kill people, it's a lot easier if they're killing people who, well, really need killin'... like abusers of women. Just sayin'.

-- Badtux the Military Penguin


  1. I have to believe (OK - full disclosure - I've never killed anyone) that it's damned hard to commit murder unless you're either in a blind rage or capable of hating the murderee.

    That's where demonization comes in - 'cuz it's also kinda hard to hate an actual human being. Ya gots to demonize them first.

    Kinda, sorta.

    The problem with what Mattis said is that it also applies to our "allies" as well as our emenies.

    So, he screwed up bad.

    Tough shit, soldier,

  2. Jzb, a Marine's job is to go to exotic places, meet interesting people, and kill them. If they happen to need killin', so much the better. You don't sign up to be a Marine in order to be a pacifist.

    - Badtux the Military Penguin

  3. Well Goooly Sargent Carter, you means you want me to run through this har raggitty towel Man..I hopes Andy doesn't learn of this.

  4. If I had the bombs I would kill every soldier on this planet, and I wouldn't care if they are American or from another country.

    Stupid fucking wars.

  5. Here are some other Mattis quotes:

    "I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I'll kill you all"

    "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."

    "Marines don't know how to spell the word defeat"

    "No war is over until the enemy says it's over. We may think it over, we may declare it over, but in fact, the enemy gets a vote."

    Check out the manual Mattis is guided by, the Small Wars Manual. It's public domain. http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/swm/index.htm

    @Jazzhumpa It is easy to shoot back if the opposing forces shoot first. No hate, no demonization. Otherwise, you won't take prisoners, care for enemy wounded or make peace.

    @BadTux A Marine's job is to threaten or apply the minimum amount of force necessary to accomplish the assigned mission. Sometimes you get to be an armed "Peace Corps", as in Haiti this year.

    @BBC Well, aren't you the non-violent one! Keep in mind that sometimes civilians are near the soldiers. Bombs are a rather indiscriminate form of group therapy.

  6. Dick, fundamentally a Marine's job is to kill people. Otherwise we wouldn't need a USMC, we'd only need a Peace Corps. Yes, when Marines can fulfill the mission *without* killing someone it's nice. Saves money, good for goodwill, doesn't involve any of that messy PTSD stuff, and so forth. But if Marines weren't trained, equipped, and ready to kill, most of those "peaceful" missions wouldn't be -- it's the fact that people know the Marines will fuck their shit if they fuck with the Marines that makes those "peaceful" missions possible.

    BBC: Unfortunately, monkeys are messy, greedy, and violent, unlike us pacifist penguins who just want to be left alone to worship the Great Penguin and eat herring and nap upon our icebergs. While I wish soldiers weren't necessary, most nations end up needing at least something similar to a military if only to prevent greedy neighbors from invading them. Greedy fucking monkeys...

    - Badtux the Realist Penguin

  7. @BadTux I've been there, done that, got the scars, medals, and T-shirt. Had friends and strangers die around me. I am intimately familiar with what a Marine's job is.

    "Every Marine a rifleman" This implies the swift and precise application of deadly force, but the flip side is the trigger is not always being pulled. That's why the command "Cease Fire" exists. There is not enough ammo to kill them all. Getting them to surrender or stop is a good thing.


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