tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post8716296284393228527..comments2023-09-29T06:58:20.125-07:00Comments on Badtux the Snarky Penguin: Tired penguinBadTuxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-66759421455704080782007-04-03T16:42:00.000-07:002007-04-03T16:42:00.000-07:00Wouldn't bother.Wouldn't bother.Fixerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09672137568947891733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-401446940440168152007-04-03T09:06:00.000-07:002007-04-03T09:06:00.000-07:00Also, I spent many years prowling around and racin...Also, I spent many years prowling around and racing in the SoCal desert and never needed 4WD, but I was careful where I went and always carried a shovel in my truck. I still do, but it's for snow now.<BR/><BR/>I've prowled around our NorCal Forest Service Roads for the last 25 years. I live in the Tahoe NF and the Toiyabe NF is right next door. It's my back yard. I wouldn't go off the main Forest Service roads without 4WD. There are 'designated Jeep trails' I wouldn't attempt with a dirt bike, but the Jeepers love 'em. They'll also hang their buddies' Jeeps from a tree with the winch cable after they've had a coupla drinks! A fun-lovin' bunch!<BR/><BR/>Using 4WD is a good environmental practice when driving on any dirt roads. It helps hold down erosion by keeping the wheels from spinning.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to see a picture of your Jeep and KLR. Can you get 'em to hold still long enough to get a photo?Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05772126106416366135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-40963022795820716522007-04-03T08:41:00.000-07:002007-04-03T08:41:00.000-07:00It definitely sounds like more of a chore than set...It definitely sounds like more of a chore than setting up wheel bearings or a Sportster swingarm!<BR/><BR/>'Technobabble' is fun and cam be used to "baffle 'em with bullshit when you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance". Using terms like 'stoichiometry' instead of 'fuel-air ratio' and 'internal hex lobular fastener' instead of 'Torx' makes folks' eyes glaze over! :)Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05772126106416366135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-5490445387341857152007-04-02T20:33:00.000-07:002007-04-02T20:33:00.000-07:00Yeah, BBC, I wouldn't want to actually try to set ...Yeah, BBC, I wouldn't want to actually try to set the preload and pinion depth on this differential. I looked at the procedure in the factory service manual, and checked some other sources who do it for a living and don't live where I live (i.e., they aren't gonna bullshit me just to get my business), and all agree that Dana axles are a pain in the ass to set bearing preload, pinion depth, etc. on. That said, the Dana factory did a damn fine job here. I've seen some Detroit differentials that were just sloppy. This is a tight little differential that was put together right by whoever did it. <BR/><BR/>I took the Aussie locker for a little spin. So far so good. It behaved just like it was supposed to behave, quiet and locked up when going straight, clucking quietly to itself when turning as the ratcheting feature allowed it to differentiate. It was literally unnoticable in 2 wheel drive mode. It'll be interesting to see what happens in 4 wheel drive mode...<BR/><BR/>BTW, BBC, I had a 2 wheel drive pickup truck and yeah I drove it plenty of places it probably shouldn't have gone. But forest service roads that I could only barely make it over with the pickup are child's play with the Jeep, and there are some things -- such as sand washes -- where I would have never taken the pickup there, and the Jeep has no trouble. And unfortunately many of the roads in our Southwestern deserts require you to go through this deep sand to get where you're going...BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-75556400770021036092007-04-02T20:19:00.000-07:002007-04-02T20:19:00.000-07:00Gordon, the preload is actually just fine for big ...Gordon, the preload is actually just fine for big bearings this size, the reason I had trouble getting it started is because of the way the case is shaped. You're really supposed to use a case spreader on this thing, but a) I don't have a lift so I wouldn't have room to use one, and b) I don't have a case spreader anyhow nor any desire to have one. <BR/><BR/>I did not actually take the bearings off the carrier. They're pressed on there with a hydraulic press, and you need a hydraulic press to get them off (believe me, many Jeepers have tried to get them off without a hydraulic press, and failed!). So the preload on the bearings is exactly what the Jeep factory intended, and in my experience (admittedly less than yours) appropriate for these bearings. They have enough preload to keep them from being sloppy, but they still move easily and are not in any way flat-spotted or showing signs of stress. All in all, I was quite impressed with the build quality here, especially compared with other parts of the Jeep where the build quality obviously sucked (such as the exhaust system they had to tweak by hand to make it only barely clear the front of the oil pan).BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-55724804158694745932007-04-02T20:06:00.000-07:002007-04-02T20:06:00.000-07:00Yeah, every idiot needs a Jeep to drive to the gro...Yeah, every idiot needs a Jeep to drive to the grocery store. <BR/><BR/>Fuck, I can plow snow with a two wheel drive. Enjoy pissing your money away and thanks for supporting the economy. LOL<BR/><BR/>Dana is a little tricky if you want the right bearing preload and gear pattern but on the other hand it is pretty forgiving if it isn't perfect. <BR/><BR/>Most drag cars use an Eaton or some other after market if they want something tough.<BR/><BR/>Just saying. Hugs from an old race car builder and driver.BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-28098481508115340452007-04-02T19:43:00.000-07:002007-04-02T19:43:00.000-07:00It sounds like you put an awful lot of pre-load on...It sounds like you put an awful lot of pre-load on the bearings if you needed a pry bar to move it. How did you measure it?<BR/><BR/>A rule of thumb is about one pound of friction per inch of the bearing's outside diameter. The way I do it is to set the thing with the play just taken out, no pre-load. Then use a fisherman's scale, attach it to a convenient point, and take note of the reading when the whatever starts to move. Then pre-load by the appropriate means until the increased pound reading is where you want it.<BR/><BR/>I hope the thing didn't come with all the shims you would ever be likely to need already in place behind the bearing and you were supposed to remove them as necessary.Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05772126106416366135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-39295975219007235132007-04-02T13:50:00.000-07:002007-04-02T13:50:00.000-07:00Not an OEM error, just an option error, as in, I d...Not an OEM error, just an option error, as in, I didn't get the Rubicon option (which option adds lockers front and rear) since I was buying a leftover 2006 Jeep and thus was limited to what was actually on the lot.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure Da Fixer will be laugh if you call his argot "technobabble", heh! Can it be technobabble if it's coming out of the mouths of grease-stained mechanics with their hands deep in an engine (or differential, in this case)? BTW, by the time I got everything reassembled, my clothes were so filthy that when I leaned against my bed, I left smudges on the sheets. Eep! Need to run another washerload of clothes when I get home!<BR/><BR/>- Badtux the Wrenchin' PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.com