tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post7534152087162557716..comments2023-09-29T06:58:20.125-07:00Comments on Badtux the Snarky Penguin: The face of hatredBadTuxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-56590206511396555172008-10-13T18:24:00.000-07:002008-10-13T18:24:00.000-07:00BTW, the nonsense about polygamy, gay marrying dog...BTW, the nonsense about polygamy, gay marrying dogs, sex with 9 year olds, and all that is nonsense. It's illegal for straight people to do that, and it's illegal for gay people to do that. No Equal Protection Clause issues involved because no difference in treatment of protected classes is involved.<BR/><BR/>I just don't get it. What is it about the notion of "consenting adults" do some folks not get?BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-89033700905907804642008-10-13T18:20:00.000-07:002008-10-13T18:20:00.000-07:00Once again, it's an equal protection clause issue ...Once again, it's an equal protection clause issue under the California Constitution. Gays are a protected group under California law, so any law which grants a right under law (i.e. privilege) to straight people must grant the same right to gay people. In short, it is an equal protection right, not a marriage right, that is covered by the California Supreme Court ruling. The California Supreme Court did not say that an affirmative right to marriage is a Constitutional right. It merely stated that if you granted it to one group via law, you had to grant it to all other groups via law. <BR/><BR/>In short, it's an equal protection issue. If you state that the State should not be in the business of registering marriages at the courthouse in the first place i.e. you bar both gay AND straight marriages, that's the only way the California Constitution allows barring gay marriage under the Equal Protection clause of the California Constitution. But the moment the State will register the marriage of straight couples, it has to extend that same right to gay couples under the Equal Protection clause. That's just how the California Constitution works.<BR/><BR/>- Badtux the Equal Protection PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-81249714338644654852008-10-13T18:17:00.000-07:002008-10-13T18:17:00.000-07:00Wondering if you're proposing polygamy for bisexua...Wondering if you're proposing polygamy for bisexual people.<BR/>Inter-species marriage for people into beastiality.<BR/>And for people into 9-yr old chicks, well of course.<BR/>And the communists that are into capitalist swine.<BR/><BR/>I don't see who is being denied anything other than the crybabies that think they're at Burger King.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-8336725095963197862008-10-13T17:59:00.000-07:002008-10-13T17:59:00.000-07:00Gay people marry.They marry all the time.Still don...Gay people marry.<BR/>They marry all the time.<BR/>Still don't see where marrying a person of the same sex is a right.<BR/><BR/>btw, not that it matters, but your reasoning there (the a&b thing) is a hasty generalization and a strawman argument.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-6392807638269978812008-10-12T18:49:00.000-07:002008-10-12T18:49:00.000-07:00The clause in the California Constitution that is ...The clause in the California Constitution that is under attack, PT, is the Equal Protection clause, which states that if the government gives a privilege to one group of people (straight people), it must also give that same privilege to another group of people (gay people). That is, from a Constitutional point of view there is a right for gays to marry in California <I>only because there is a right for straights to marry in California</I>.<BR/><BR/>So there you are. If you advocate that straights can marry the person of their choice but say that gays can't, you are a bigot. The government simply cannot morally, ethically, or legally treat one group of people different from another for reasons unrelated to the purpose of government, which is to a) protect us from those who would harm us, and b) provide fundamental services such as roads, fire, etc. that private enterprise is unable or unwilling to provide in an economical manner. Gays don't harm me when they get married, and marriage is apparently one of those services that we the people have decided government provides (at least for the formal registration of such at the courthouse), so... there you are.<BR/><BR/>- Badtux the Equal Protection PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-78915063212234035372008-10-12T13:20:00.000-07:002008-10-12T13:20:00.000-07:00I'm against gay marriage.I'm no bigot.Mark Lewis b...I'm against gay marriage.<BR/><BR/>I'm no bigot.<BR/>Mark Lewis baptized my nephews. I like the man. I wish him well.<BR/><BR/>It's just that I don't consider marriage as a right to anyone.<BR/>Not any more so than I would consider that I have a right to a blowjob from Scarlet Johannsen.<BR/>Some things simply are not rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-35442889328440014692008-10-12T12:57:00.000-07:002008-10-12T12:57:00.000-07:00We are all 'bigoted', about something. I don't lik...We are all 'bigoted', about something. I don't like looking at fat people, and I'm not the only one. <BR/><BR/>But I don't beat them up, I just avoid them.BBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15323188240580782454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-12972673464404302532008-10-12T12:47:00.000-07:002008-10-12T12:47:00.000-07:00Great post!Great post!fjbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13120081721262176259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-80849178672617012942008-10-12T11:53:00.000-07:002008-10-12T11:53:00.000-07:00I agree with your other commenters that your respo...I agree with your other commenters that your response was quite excellent. It burns me when I think of the many people so against gays. What harm is it doing them if gay people get married? Really. HOW does it harm that couple? <BR/><BR/>Yes, bigotry is alive and thriving. People like that have way too much time on their hands.oldwhiteladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15966442124843256715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-63119117266710933082008-10-12T09:57:00.000-07:002008-10-12T09:57:00.000-07:00It would be far easier to combat bigots and hatefu...It would be far easier to combat bigots and hateful sorts if they looked as ugly and fearsome on the outside; but alas, they look all soft and reasonably harmless. Which is why I think bigots not only despicable, but pathetic: their hate all launches from fear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-55211411917819103282008-10-12T00:13:00.000-07:002008-10-12T00:13:00.000-07:00Jim, I would have been been more afraid of the man...Jim, I would have been been more afraid of the man's wife than of the man. He looked thoroughly henpecked and mild and meek. My suspicion is that the man's wife has decided that the reason her guy has trouble getting it up is because of all those evil homos and, exercising the finest in Wingnut logic, decided the answer was to outlaw gay marriage. So it goes.<BR/><BR/>PC. Thanks. (Blush!).<BR/><BR/>W3: I was polite. I used the same sort of voice that I would have used to say "I'm sorry, but I'm not interested in buying any magazines today. Thank you!" (shut door in their face). I didn't yell at them or curse them or anything. Hey, what do you think I am, a tighty rightie?!<BR/><BR/>ML: Not sure what you're saying. Are you saying that calling a bigot a bigot is a bludgeon? Or are you saying that bigotry itself used against everything we fear is a bludgeon? Color this penguin puzzled.<BR/><BR/>Nuns: Thanks for the link to the video. This penguin was amused :-).<BR/><BR/>- Badtux the Blogging PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-84421512149033204772008-10-11T21:16:00.000-07:002008-10-11T21:16:00.000-07:00Thet was a great response. I loved it.I liked thi...Thet was a great response. I loved it.<BR/><BR/>I liked this so much, I posted it<BR/><BR/> <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiYmjDzSg3o" REL="nofollow">Gender Auditors: No on Prop 8 </A><BR/><BR/>The story of my relatives will either make you laugh or cry :)nunyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08833886980442919570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-76517173828416858652008-10-11T21:07:00.000-07:002008-10-11T21:07:00.000-07:00And also: "hey, fattie!"Bigotry is the bludgeon of...And also: "hey, fattie!"<BR/>Bigotry is the bludgeon of choice for everything we fear?<BR/>--mlMartin Langelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12214277415738344944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-25632565252593007042008-10-11T19:29:00.000-07:002008-10-11T19:29:00.000-07:00That is why I read your site . For the True Snark ...That is why I read your site . For the True Snark !<BR/> w3skiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-74060480320573866142008-10-11T15:16:00.000-07:002008-10-11T15:16:00.000-07:00Have I told you lately that you fucking ROCK? No? ...Have I told you lately that you fucking ROCK? No? Well, consider yourself told.ThePoliticalCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06561906144646421575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-8205085474625489012008-10-11T14:42:00.000-07:002008-10-11T14:42:00.000-07:00I politely tell them that I do not talk to bigots ...<I>I politely tell them that I do not talk to bigots and that the guy ought to get counseling to deal with his suppressed homosexuality</I><BR/><BR/>You told him that? Man, you have more guts than I do...Jim Yeagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14614500796136679068noreply@blogger.com