tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post8053728075980825767..comments2023-09-29T06:58:20.125-07:00Comments on Badtux the Snarky Penguin: The question of IsraelBadTuxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-73248178447425451692009-11-04T20:08:28.737-08:002009-11-04T20:08:28.737-08:00Ah, well, occasionally our mileage will vary. The...Ah, well, occasionally our mileage will vary. The Jews have a really GOOD lobby. Don't know about the Armenians.<br /><br />Cheers!<br />JzB the still anti-lobbying trombonistJazzbumpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07337490817307473659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-69161043278867786302009-11-03T18:07:01.180-08:002009-11-03T18:07:01.180-08:00LFC, there's not enough of the Armageddon junk...LFC, there's not enough of the Armageddon junkies to explain widespread support amongst the religious right for Israel. <br /><br />Jazz: There's 5,000,000 or so American Jews. Not a whole lot of'em. There's almost that many Armenian-Americans. Yet the Armenian-Americans can't even get the U.S. government to admit the Armenian Genocide, a historical fact, because the U.S. is scared they'd piss off a NATO ally if they did, nevermind sending support to Armenia itself (ain't happening). What's the difference between Armenia and Israel? Well, for one, the U.S. wasn't complicit in the Armenian Genocide, unlike the Jewish Genocide... and for the other, there's no widespread hatred of or discrimination against Armenians, unlike Jews, who historically have been one of the most hated minorities on the planet, hated by pretty much *everybody* (as vs. just Turks hating them when it comes to Armenians). In short, I don't buy the lobbying bit. Armenian-Americans have a lobby too, but they can't even get a freakin' *apology* out of the U.S. government, much less billions of dollars of support per year for their homeland...<br /><br />- Badtux the Bad Smell Sniffin' PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-43658187411962718732009-11-03T16:31:01.437-08:002009-11-03T16:31:01.437-08:00Every time I'm reminded that we send more $ pe...Every time I'm reminded that we send more $ per capita to Israel than we spend on our own citizens, I become a bit outraged. <br />Trouble is, if anyone in Congress tried to change this they would immediately and forever be branded as "Anti-Semitic" by precisely the lobby that Jazzbumpa mentioned.<br />Over a barrel? Yep, we're there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06518711108525390571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-63650684057793416832009-11-03T14:35:49.451-08:002009-11-03T14:35:49.451-08:00I did not know those things.
But - and I really b...I did not know those things.<br /><br />But - and I really believe this - the reason the U.S. supports Israel is that Congress is owned by lobbyists, and Israel has a damned powerful lobby.<br /><br />WV: geshiv. Don't know what it means, but it sure looks Jewish.<br /><br />Cheers!<br />JzB the anti-lobbying trombonistJazzbumpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07337490817307473659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-19385658261204888952009-11-03T12:49:16.321-08:002009-11-03T12:49:16.321-08:00Gee, and I thought they just believed the "f...Gee, and I thought they just believed the "final days" would begin with Israel attacking Iran (and you know how those xianists love that "final days" scenario), but I like your reasoning better.<br /><br />Why don't they hire someone smart like you, BT, to do their strategic thinking?<br /><br />I would as you are always waaaay ahead of the pack.<br /><br />S<br /><br /><i>Ever wonder why the rabid Christianists are such fervent supporters of Israel, even though they regularly preach from their pulpits that the Jews killed Christ? Guess.</i>Cirzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070125217972397204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-38260670872088560512009-11-03T12:06:33.940-08:002009-11-03T12:06:33.940-08:00You forget that Armageddon is supposed to start in...You forget that Armageddon is supposed to start in Israel. The Jews are supposed to be instrumental in it.<br /><br />The group of people who believe in the Rapture has every reason to support Israel. The Jews are instrumental in allowing them to fly up to heaven.LFChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10723708514119454447noreply@blogger.com