tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post7014869704991442641..comments2023-09-29T06:58:20.125-07:00Comments on Badtux the Snarky Penguin: The right to life does not stop at birthBadTuxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-72293892268958370262009-07-08T07:25:29.651-07:002009-07-08T07:25:29.651-07:00While I thought your article was great, your respo...While I thought your article was great, your response to Aaron was even better.<br /><br />I've pointed to this article on <a href="http://usahealthcarecosts.blogspot.com/2009/07/right-to-life-does-not-stop-at-birth.html" rel="nofollow"><br />my blog</a> and have re-posted Aaron's comment along with your reply.Susan Carrollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15863153794748194455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-28750882254535380122009-07-07T19:21:23.753-07:002009-07-07T19:21:23.753-07:00Bravo, Badtux! I've copied this to my blog.Bravo, Badtux! I've copied this to my blog.zztopdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01857583016929986836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-76313568879925813952009-07-07T18:24:33.775-07:002009-07-07T18:24:33.775-07:00" deriving their just powers from the consent..." deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ... "<br /><br />Focus on that phrase a moment. We decide. There is nothing subversive about health care for all if it is the will of the people. The wingnut argument is that the clear will of the people is trumped by the Constitution, if the service we demand is not explicitly listed as a power granted in the Constitution. <br /><br />Nobody outsnarks the Penguin, I know. But the idea that we established a constitutional democracy to prevent government from meeting the needs & will of the electorage is preposterous. <br /><br />Badtux, if you have a better word than 'preposterous' - let me in on it. <br /><br />BTW, your posts on health care are the best I have read - concise & factual. I wish the MSM was tuned in and using you as a source. Mostly they wring their hands and moan, "It's really hard to understand."TampaDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927689342520971279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-78191309094172504382009-07-07T17:38:32.929-07:002009-07-07T17:38:32.929-07:00Aaron:
Eric would have gotten his heart transplan...Aaron:<br /><br />Eric would have gotten his heart transplant under the Canadian system. The Canadian system does *not* ration healthcare. There are waiting lists for voluntary procedures, but critical procedures are done immediately -- indeed, 50% of ALL procedures are done immediately. See <a href="http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/cpa/mediasite/waitlist/median.html" rel="nofollow">BC health service website</a> for example of the reality.<br /><br />Eric would have also gotten his heart transplant under Medicare For All. Heart transplants are covered by Medicare. So once again he would have been saved by Medicare For All.<br /><br />My preferred system is the French system, which is roughly Medicare For All plus Medigap. That is, Medicare covers all critical/expensive procedures, and you can buy Medigap to cover anything not covered by Medicare. This both gives you health care choices and assures that there are no more Erics. And they do this WHILE providing all the same advanced treatments as the US system, for 40% LESS MONEY!<br /><br />As for the British, nobody proposes the British system for America. In the British system, all doctors are salaried employees of the state, and all hospitals are owned by the state, and private insurance is illegal. It is cheap -- 1/3rd the cost of the U.S. health care system -- but that is all that can be said for it.<br /><br />As for your assertion that government-run healthcare will impoverish the people and result in more deaths, that has not happened in any of the other 19 OECD states that have adopted universal healthcare systems. Indeed, they pay much less of their GDP in healthcare costs -- see the <a href="http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/29/52/36960035.pdf" rel="nofollow">OECD statistics</a>. I fail to see how paying less for health care can IMPOVERISH a people. It just makes no sense. <br /><br />- Badtux the "Facts are facts" PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-21939392577446226652009-07-07T16:52:40.403-07:002009-07-07T16:52:40.403-07:00I don't understand why you advocate government...I don't understand why you advocate government run healthcare when you simultanously evoke the memory of Eric De La Cruz? I hope you realize that entities like Britain's NHS and Canada's Single-payer system are known to deny procedures that private insurance carriers commonly approve. In other words, government healthcare has more exclusions and limitations than private insurance. <br /><br />Additionally, in a single payer system, you cant turn anywhere else after a denial. At least in a private healthcare industry there is redundancy and overlap, which reduces the amount of people who "fall through the cracks."<br /><br />My concern is that you equate government run healthcare with GUARANTEED healthcare, and this is sadly not the case. Not by a longshot. When nations collectivize food production, people get hungier, not fatter. When nations collectivize transportation, more people have to walk or bike to work. When nations collectivize housing, more people end up homeless. And when nations collectivize healthcare, more people will die of medical conditions.Aaron Kinneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12059982934663353474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-39262986196955535662009-07-07T14:56:28.205-07:002009-07-07T14:56:28.205-07:00We love you for this essay!
You should be quoted ...We love you for this essay!<br /><br />You should be quoted everywhere.<br /><br />I will at my place.<br /><br />Suzan<br /><br /><i>Whenever any industry infringes so baldly upon our inherent human right to life, it is completely within the realm of our founders' intents to have our government secure these rights, and if it does not do so, to change our government if necessary - which we did, in November 2008, when we elected President Obama on a platform of healthcare reform and withdrawal from Iraq. <br /><br />There are some people who say that the right to life is conditional - that you have a right to life only if you have the ability to pay cash for your health care. There are others who say there is no such right because it is not listed in the Constitution of the United States of America, 9th Amendment of the Constitution nonwithstanding. This is utter nonsense.</i>Cirzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070125217972397204noreply@blogger.com