tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post3767903970944021630..comments2023-09-29T06:58:20.125-07:00Comments on Badtux the Snarky Penguin: And the retreat goes on...BadTuxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-4242790721752749872009-05-14T18:57:00.000-07:002009-05-14T18:57:00.000-07:00You are as logical as your profession. (I know - I...You are as logical as your profession. (I know - I wrote a bunch of COBOL in my time.)<br /><br />Thie is an emotional issue. If you show an Arab a translation of the torture memo, you might get a reaction On a scale of 1 to 10 about a 2. Ask him to participate or contribute in revenge against the US and you wil get a ho-hum reaction. Now SHOW him pictures of that torture on a live Arab. On that same emotional scale for the same act described in text, now in pictures. the reaction is 8 or 9. He's pissed and Bush and Obama, he can be talked into the need for retaliation. <br /><br />We are deliberately pouring cold water on the jihadist movement, and it's a working strategy. Why mix in kerosine?TampaDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927689342520971279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-8409905796428391362009-05-14T18:18:00.000-07:002009-05-14T18:18:00.000-07:00The problem is that the Arab world *already* knows...The problem is that the Arab world *already* knows all the details of the graphic torture and humiliation of Arabs, so there's no real reason to hide it from them. If you're trying to differentiate yourself from the prior administration, the easiest way to do that is to say, "*this* is what the prior administration did to Arabs. *this*" (point to pictures of happy Arabs) "is what *I* do for Arabs." <br /><br />In short, Obama is playing domestic politics, trying to hide the details from the domestic audience in order to reduce the drumroll of support for prosecuting the former administration for war crimes. The Arabs? They already know what kinda evil shit was going down. They have al Jazeera, after all. The photos ain't gonna make a damned bit of difference on the Arab street, they already know the Bush administration was some evil motherfuckers. <br /><br />- Badtux the Geopolitical PenguinBadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-4164356414796781192009-05-14T18:11:00.000-07:002009-05-14T18:11:00.000-07:00Senor Snarky -
I think you got this one wrong.
...Senor Snarky -<br /><br />I think you got this one wrong. <br /><br />First, I am all for investigations, prosecution and seeing Bush Cheney & Rumsfield behind bars would make me happy for the next 3 incarnations.<br /><br />However, the release of pictures that show the graphic torture & humiliation of Moslems wil be used and twisted by the radical clerics to drum up rage, funds & recruits.<br /><br />Now you and I know that none of the crap in those pics happened on Obama's watch. But once in the public domain - we have no control how that crap wil be used for propaganda purposes.<br /><br />Obama has deliberately been letting the air out of the jihadist war wagon. He's made direct appeals to the Moslem world that the US is not at war with Islam. My guess is that it's working and the Immans would love to find an issue to whip up the populace into a frenzy. Bush was their poster boy and the best recruiting tool they could hope for with torture and rendtition that kept the Moslem world as angry as a hive of bees.<br /><br />We need to keep pushing for trials of the archetects of the torture policy. We don't need to go for sensational cheap digs to piss Rush off, if we are also enraging the Muslim world.TampaDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927689342520971279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9612609.post-64594228416574587542009-05-14T01:23:00.000-07:002009-05-14T01:23:00.000-07:00I know it is normal for politicians to sort of for...I know it is normal for politicians to sort of forget their promises after they are elected, but to me this seems like being an accessory after the fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com